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       While Out of My Body I Saw God, Hell, and the Living Dead! 
       
          by  Dr. Rogelio Mills  
           
            
           
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            The excerpt you are about to read, is the first part   of the testimony of brother Rogelio Mills, who was  taken by   Jesus Christ to visit Hell and the Living Dead.   
           
               
             
            BOOK REVIEWS 
             
            Amazon.com FIVE STARS! *****  
            Vivian, A reviewer, October 23, 2003 
            Astounding Tour of Hell 
            Excellent book. Has amazing, eye-opening details. It is the most 
            comprehensive, realistic tour of hell I have ever read. I believe it is a 
            must-read for every person, every age. Everyone should have a 
            chance to find out the severity of sentence that could happen if you 
            are unrepented or back-slidden or just ignorant, and read all of the 
            surprising reasons you could be eternally damned. Earth torture 
            chambers pale in comparison. Also, some amazing information on hell 
            throughout the history of time, with some biblical mysteries answered you may have wondered about. All in all, this book is a fantastic (and 
            terrifying) journey into known and unknown regions of hell.  
             
            BarnesAndNoble.com FIVE STARS! ***** 
            BWS, A reviewer, December 4, 2003 
            Shocking and True! 
            Excellent book, a dynamic thriller and a must read for everyone. 'While 
            out of My Body, I Saw God, Hell and the Living Dead' is both the most 
            exciting and eye opening book that I have ever read on the reality of Hell! The author takes his readers through his horrific tour of the 
            terrible tortures and torments that await those that reject God and his 
            commandments. This book also finally answers many of the age-old 
            questions that humanity has been asking since the beginning about God and the after life. You will be surprised to learn, as I was, the 
            reasons why some people we think should go to Heaven, in fact are 
            on their way to Hell! This book 'SCARED THE HELL OUT OF ME' 
            literally, with the truth of the things he saw in Hell, which are confirmed 
            by the Word of God! In conclusion, I highly recommend this book. It was a tremendous eye opener! 
             
            BarnesAndNoble.com FIVE STARS! *****  
            SLS,  January 26, 2004  
            INCREDIBLE REVELATION OF GOD AND HELL!!!!!!!!!! 
            This book is frighteningly graphic in it's depiction of Hell!! The 
            scriptures from the bible come alive as literal truths as you travel 
            through the lower depths of Hell. Astounding facts about the living 
            dead, as God reveals to Dr. Mills, the potential fate of Hell-bound 
            people still alive today. Absolute must for anyone who has ever wondered what God looks like and if Hell is a real place. Simply the 
            most eye-opening tour through Hell ever!!!!!!!!!!! 
             
            CHAPTERS 
            1. Entrance into Hell 
            2. The Pits of Hell 
            3. Introduction to Outer Darkness 
            4. Outer Darkness 
            5. The Rooms of Hell - The Room of Dead Faith 
            6. The Rooms of Hell - The Room of Dead Works 
            7. The Book of the Future Dead 
            8. The Corridors of Hell 
            9. The Room of the Cursed - The Trees of Eden 
            10. The Cursed Ones 
            11. The Bottomless Pit & The Lake of Fire 
            12. Death & Hell 
            13. The Vision of the Hand of God 
            14. The Room of Sin 
            15. The Cold Side of Hell 
            16. The Room of the Future Dead 
            17. The Keys to the Kingdom and the Sword of the Spirit 
            18. Beelzebub 
            19. Familiar Spirits 
            20. Back in My Body 
            21. God Prepares People for Death 
            22. I Saw God 
             
           
         
       
       
      
       
         
         
        THE NATURE OF THIS BOOK: 
         
        GOD TOLD ME TO WARN THE GODLY AND THE UNGODLY 
        ABOUT THE DANGERS OF 
        THE OUTER DARKNESS OF HELL 
         
        To all of those whom might read this book, it is my desire to 
        sincerely Express the true content of this book which is entitled “WHILE OUT OF MY BODY, I saw God, Hell and the Living 
Dead.” On October 5, 1998, the Lord God Almighty appeared to me 
in human form, and He said to me, “I’ve come to talk to you about 
        the Outer Darkness of Hell, and I want you to talk to others about 
        the Outer Darkness of Hell.” He told me that He would manifest 
        himself to me. The Lord-God Almighty said that He would allow me 
        to see him just as Peter, James and John did, hours before his 
        crucifixion, and days after his resurrection. When I saw Him, I did 
        not fall down, as certain preachers suggest that I should have done. 
        Neither did the disciples when they saw Him hours before He was 
        crucified, and days after the resurrection. Jesus appeared to the disciples: 
        (Matthew 28:16-20; Mark 16:14-18; Luke 24:31; John 20:19-23; 
        Acts 1:6-8) 
         
        I said to God Almighty, “People will not believe me when I tell them 
        that I saw you”. The Lord God said to me, “There will be certain 
        people, some of whom will be preachers, the same will try to oppose 
        this account. Some will believe and some will not, but for those who 
        will not believe, tell them that I have said it is written in my Holy 
        Word ‘I will manifest myself to those who love me.’” 
         
        “He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that 
        loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I 
        will love him, and will manifest myself to him.”  John 14:21 KJV 
         
        This prepared work is not to be perceived as a biblical addition to 
        the Holy Bible, nor is it my intent to subtract from any popular 
        interpretation of the holy scriptures, although the book does 
        contain some scripture references. Since this is in fact the case, I 
        caution the reader not to allow the biblical references to become 
        legalistic, but to receive them as Almighty God’s fundamental 
        truths by which the entire Church is to operate. 
        The inspiration of this book is not a result of dreams or visions. 
        Rather, it is a written documentation which consists of my D.O.B.E. 
        (Death-Outer-Body Encounter) with the Lord-God Almighty and 
        the Living Dead, while out of my body in the Outer Darkness of 
        Hell. This book contains spiritual truths as Almighty God revealed 
        them to me, while dead and out of my body (October 5, 1998). 
         
        Dr. R. Mills 
         
        Please note: 
        This is not the complete written account of my death and Outer-
        Body Encounter which I did experience in the Outer Darkness of 
        Hell. Some of the details were left out of this recorded document 
        due to the fact that some of the written material was too graphic 
        in nature and too horrific to reveal. It was of an excellent decision 
        that I would remove certain facets from this written report. If 
        kept in, those details may have brought pain and shame upon the 
        surviving family members of the living-dead, whom I reference in 
        this book as a result of seeing and speaking with them in the 
        Outer Darkness of Hell. 
         
        I have given numerous of these books away to inmates in jails 
        and prisons. It has never been my desire to write books and sell 
        them for profit. My motive for selling this book is that I may save 
        souls, and any finances generated as a result of selling this book 
        will be given toward the production costs, such as publishing, 
        printing and distribution of this book. This book is printed in 
        other languages, and it took finances to translate it. Also, any 
        monetary compensation received in regards to this book, pays for 
        the expense of travel that may occur for public speaking 
        engagements in relationship to this book. The bottom line: the 
        sole purpose of this book is not to create self-financial gain, but to 
        reach the lost at all costs.  
         
        “I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his 
        ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, 
        not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts.” 
        Isaiah 45:13 KJV 
         
        A PROPHETIC MESSAGE FROM THE LORD GOD TO ROGER 
         
        Almighty God spoke to me on Wednesday, August 12, 1992, at 
        10:20 AM and he gave me a message. 
        This is what he said: 
         
        “I’VE COME TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT MY COMING. I AM 
        GOING TO GIVE YOU A SIGN CONCERNING MY COMING. 
        THE SABBATH DAY, KEEP HOLY ON THE SABBATH DAY 
        FOR EVERY DAY SHOULD BE THE SABBATH DAY TO YOU. 
        YOU SHALL WRITE A BOOK, YOU SHALL HAVE A BOOK 
        OUT ABOUT THE TIME OF THE RAPTURE AND ABOUT 
        TIME THAT THE BOOK IS OUT IN CIRCULATION THE 
        RAPTURE WILL BE NEAR. THE RAPTURE WILL COME AND 
        I WILL TAKE THE CHURCH HOME…THE GOSPEL WILL BE 
        PREACHED IN ALL NATIONS. THEN SHALL THE END 
        COME.” 
         
        INTERPRETATION OF THE MESSAGE: 
         
        In reference to the return of my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, 
        let me hasten to say that I am not a date setter. I strongly believe 
        that no one knows the day or exact hour that the Lord God-Jesus 
        shall return for his Church, although Jesus did state in the book 
        of Matthew that we would know when it was near.  
         
        “So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is 
near, even at the doors.” – Matthew 24:33 KJV 
         
        It is out of good conscience that I mention those words that the 
        Lord–God Jesus audibly uttered to me in respect to this book. In 
        1992 the Lord God-Jesus said to me that I would write a book, 
        and that the written book would be my personal sign from Him, 
        which will indicate that His coming is near. How near? I do not 
        know. Maybe He meant many years into the future, but He did 
        tell me that it would be during the distribution period of my 
        book, and I personally plan to have the book in print as long as I 
        am alive. Only God knows the exact time when his return shall 
        be. Let me caution you that you should be ready at all times for 
        Jesus to return. 
         
        “Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not 
the son of man cometh.” – Matthew 24:44 KJV 
 
“Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour 
wherein the Son of man cometh.” – Matthew 25:13 KJV 
         
        INTRODUCTION 
         
        ST. PAUL’S POSSIBLE OUTER-BODY EXPERIENCE 
         
        “It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions 
        and revelations of the Lord. I knew a man in Christ above fourteen 
        years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the 
        body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the 
        third Heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out 
        of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was caught 
        up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not 
        lawful for a man to utter.” 
        - THE APOSTLE PAUL 
        2 Corinthians 12:1-4 KJV (King James Version) 
         
        Holy greetings unto all of you who are reading this book. I am a 
        television personality. Many of you may recognize me from 
        seeing me on national television. I host a television program 
        from my television studio in the city of Detroit, Michigan. To some I 
        am known as a Prophet of God, and to others I am a Pastor. This one 
        thing I want you to know for sure about me, that I am just a 
        converted sinner who is serving God to the best of my ability, with a 
        with a pure and a whole heart. On Wednesday, August 12, 1992, at 
        10:20 AM, the Lord God appeared to me and He spoke in an audible 
        voice and told me that I would write this book. I had no idea that it 
        would take years of preparation and gathering all the biblical facts to 
        write the manuscript. It took a year to put it on paper. The writing of 
        the manuscript was completed in 2000. I had no interest, none 
        whatsoever, to write a book. As a matter of fact, He used other 
        persons to tell me I should, in order to help motivate me to do so. 
        One person in particular is my dear precious sister in Christ, Mary K. 
        Baxter, the author of the best selling book entitled, “A Divine 
        Revelation of Hell.” The Lord God prepared me to write this book 
        when I was just a teenager. In 1980, I had my first encounter with 
        seeing Hell. Almighty God took my spirit out of my body and placed 
        me in a pit inside of Hell for two minutes. 
         
        While conducting an interview on my television program with my 
        guest, and good friend, Grammy winner, Usher Raymond, I asked 
        him this question: “If you had your own television talk show and you 
        could interview God as your guest, what would you ask God?” 
        Usher’s answer was, “Am I going to Heaven?” In recent times, I had 
        the opportunity to be in the company of two of God’s most precious 
        people on the Earth. I am speaking of my spiritual parents, the wellknown 
        international news team, Dr. Jack and Dr. Rexella Van Impe. 
        While we were heavily engrossed in conversation about my Death- 
        Outer-Body Encounter, Dr. Rexella made me aware that she had an 
        Death-Outer-Body Encounter as well. Dr. Jack and Dr. Rexella Van 
        Impe share her personal testimony of her Death-Outer-Body 
        Encounter in a masterpiece of work entitled: “Heaven: An Out-Of-Body Adventure.” 
         
        There has been much talk on Outer-Body Experiences, and many 
        people have laid claims to having them. A gallop poll was conducted 
        during the early 1980s. The survey showed that many Americans 
        express their beliefs of the afterlife. Amazingly, 71% of those 
        surveyed professed that they believed in Heaven, while only 21% 
        believed in Hell. Amazingly, 67% of Americans surveyed conveyed a 
        strong belief in life after death. In the January 31, 2000 edition of 
        Newsweek magazine, a poll showed that 64% of those surveyed 
        believe in Hell, while 25% did not believe in Hell. 9% said they did 
        not know if Hell existed. 
         
        After reading and studying Dr. Moody’s book entitled, “Life after 
        Life,” I realized that in his book he gives numerous accounts of 
        people who have had an N.D.E. (Near Death Experience). I was left 
        with the impression that everyone he interviewed who had a N.D.E., 
        O.B.E. (Outer-Body Experience) or D.O.B.E. (Death-Outer-Body 
        Encounter), either saw Heaven or went to Heaven. Dr. Moody 
        purports that none saw Hell, which is a well-unbalanced survey. Hell 
        is just as real as Heaven. It is sad to think that so many people shun 
        the idea of the place called Hell, but with open arms embrace the idea 
         
         
        ADDITIONAL SURVEYS - NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE 1/31/00 
         
        Hell is a real place where people suffer eternal fiery torments 
        1997-48%     2000-34% 
         
        Hell is an anguished state of existence eternally separated from God 
        1997-46% 2000-53% 
         
        Don’t know 
        1997-4% 2000-11% 
         
        While Out of My Body I Saw God Hell and the Living Dead 
        of Heaven. Hardly anyone wants to go to Hell, but everyone wants to 
        go to Heaven with little or no prepared work at all to get there. Jesus, 
        the God of the New Testament scriptures spoke numerous times on 
        the subject of Hell and all those of whom will go. 
         
        “But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother 
        without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever 
        shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but 
        whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of Hell fire.” 
        Matthew 5:22 KJV 
         
        “Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers. How can ye escape the 
damnation of Hell?” – Matthew 23:33 KJV 
 
“And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be 
        brought down to Hell: for if the mighty works, which have been 
        done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained 
        until this day.” – Matthew 11:23 KJV 
         
        I want to talk about my death and outer-body encounter. It was 
        during that time, I saw God. I have been telling this story about my 
        Death-Outer-Body Encounter for years, right from the day and time it 
        first happened. On this occasion in 1998, Almighty God appeared to 
        me and He told me that He came to talk to me about Hell, and He 
        wanted me to talk about Hell to other persons. He stated that He 
        wanted to take me back to Hell, this time by removing my human 
        spirit and soul from my body for three hours and forty-five minutes. 
        He also stated that He would reveal to me another side of Hell called 
        Outer Darkness. However, before I tell you about my Death-Outer-
        Body Encounter which led me on a journey into Hell, I want to let 
        you know that seeing Almighty God in 1998 was not my first time, so 
        it did not come as a surprise. I have seen God on two different 
        occasions prior to my visitation from him in October of 1998. The 
        very first time was in October of 1988. The second time was in 
        December of 1992, and obviously, the third time was in October of 
        1998. 
         
        On October 5, 1998, at 9:45 A.M., it was at that time Almighty God 
        appeared to me and told me that He had come to talk to me about 
        Hell, and that He wanted me to talk to, and warn, others about this 
        place called Hell. He told me He was going to let me see him in
        greater depth…greater depths as when I saw him in 1988. He also 
        told me that He wanted to show me a greater depth of this place 
        called “Hell,” a much different side of Hell than when I saw it in the 
        year of 1980. 
         
        Parents, if you are reading this book to your children, I hope that you 
        read it with caution and understanding. The things that I have written 
        about are things that Almighty God showed me by his Holy Spirit. 
        Though these things may be disturbing, horrible and upsetting, I am 
        sorry to say, but I have to say, they are all the truth. Almighty God 
        took my human spirit and soul out of my body and let me see him 
        face to face. God let me see by his Holy Spirit, 175 rooms in Hell. He 
        showed me the pits of Hell. He showed me flames of fire and the 
        fires of Hell. He showed me the Lake of Fire, and He also showed me 
        certain individuals tormented in Hell by flames of fire. He showed 
        me demons and familiar spirits. He also let me see the fallen angel 
        Lucifer, who is also known as Satan and the Devil, and is referred to 
        by some scholars as Beelzebub. In the Biblical world of which we 
        live in, better known as the Christian society, he would probably be 
        best known as Lucifer the fallen cherubim. Almighty God showed me 
        other spiritual truths that are going to take another book to contain 
        them all.  
         
        The Almighty God told me that this book would be 
        published and that it would reach many people of different 
        nationalities. God told me that it would get the attention of certain 
        persons. He showed me a room called the Room of the Future Dead. 
        He let me talk to and see persons who have not died yet, who are still 
        living on earth. He took me and showed me the future to let me see 
        many of those who will die, that He did not want to die and go to 
        Hell. He described them as the people of the Future Dead. Almighty 
        God told me that He has called me into his ministry and has anointed 
        me to be one of his prophets. He said I would see many visions, and 
        that He would reveal many things to me by his supernatural power. 
        He said that I would possess supernatural knowledge about people, as 
        his Holy Spirit would enable me to. He also said He would show me 
        major national and international events before they happen on earth. 
        Most importantly of all, He told me He had called me to be a witness 
        on the behalf of his Holy Kingdom and to turn people’s hearts toward 
        him. Since I had my Death-Outer-Body Encounter with Hell in 1998, 
        God has allowed all these things to come to pass in my life. I have 
        seen many visions and revealed to many people personal things about 
        their lives. As well, I have prophesied many national and 
        international events that have come to pass, all by the Spirit of God. 
         
        INTRODUCTION TO HELL: 
         
        MY FIRST ENCOUNTER 
         
        In September of 1980, I had just come home from school, 
        extremely exhausted. I remember climbing the stairs to my room 
        in our four-bedroom apartment in East Spencer, North Carolina. I 
        was so tired that I laid my books on the floor beside my bed just as I 
        jumped in to take a nap, which was customary for me to do after 
        school, but this was no ordinary nap. As soon as I put my head down 
        on my pillow to go to sleep, I was consumed with a sensation of 
        being pulled out of my body. I remember taking hold of my bed 
        sheets with both hands, trying to stabilize myself, but it did not stop 
        that pulling sensation. I felt myself leaving my body and going 
        straight through my bed, heading downward. The sensation is best 
        described as being on an elevator when it goes down and your 
        stomach drops. That is exactly how I felt, and as I was falling 
        downward, sliding on a concrete road, everything began to turn 
        black. 
         
        There was no light…no sound. Then I instantly felt myself sliding on 
        my stomach. The feeling was as though I was sliding on concrete or 
        rock, with my hands stretched forward as if I were swimming. I slid 
        into a pit, similar to an underworld coalmine, where it was pitch 
        black and cold. I began to see a little flame of light that seemed to be 
        emanating from the bottom of the pit where I was laying. I observed 
        my surroundings as I lay in the pit. It also reminded me of a cave. 
        This place housed my entire spirit-body. I felt as though I was inside 
        a rock coffin. While lying on my stomach with my face down toward 
        the ground, I noticed that my hands and my arms, to my amazement, 
        appeared to be made of dingy white smoke. Then I began to examine 
        my whole body. It was then I realized that I was looking at my 
        human spirit and soul! This was not a dream! At the time, I wished it 
        had been a dream. I began to scream and call out to my family and 
        my brothers to help me. The louder I screamed and yelled for help, 
        the more my cries for help echoed back to me in the pit. 
         
        While in thought, I said to myself, “Roger, you’re dead!” There were 
        no signs upon the entrance to Hell saying Welcome to Hell, yet I 
        knew in my human spirit that is where I was. I knew that I was in the 
        company of hideous, evil, demonic, deformed, unexplainable and 
        scary-looking creatures. I could sense an evil presence all around me 
        as I lay there. 
         
        The pit was about three feet wide and five to six feet long, made of 
        solid rock all the way around. I realized that I had died and was in 
        Hell, and there was no chance of ever getting out. I began to call 
        upon God. I screamed, “God, please help me!” Repeatedly, I called 
        out to God, but there was no answer. In darkness I lay, saying to 
        myself, “What have I done that was so horrible that it caused God to 
        send me to Hell?" Just then, I heard words that were not my own. 
        They sounded just like a man’s voice. The voice said to me that I was 
        a stingy person and that I was very mean and very selfish. The voice 
        continued to say that I was rude to other people. Then all of a sudden, 
        I began to see through that rock-wall like looking at a television 
        screen. It was a life-review vision of everything that I had ever done 
        during my lifespan on the Earth. I saw the times that I lied to my 
        parents and told lies on my brothers. I saw when I did things to hurt 
        my friends, and the expressions of pain and hurt on their faces. I 
        could even feel their pain. 
         
        I saw on one occasion, the time my brother Tony and I watched my 
        brother Bernard and my cousin Mark mutilate a dog when we were 
        kids. Although the dog did live, I saw them cut its tail off, and we 
        were laughing. Having seen my past sins, I realized it was for those 
        reasons I had died and come to Hell. I made one more attempt to pray 
        to God, and I said to him, “God, please help me! I am sorry for all the 
        bad things I have ever done!” I told him that I was sorry for lying to 
        my parents, lying on my brothers, hurting my friends, and for 
        tormenting that little dog. I began to weep bitterly, pleading to God to 
        forgive me, and asking him to let me out of the pit. 
         
        Then suddenly, a burst of light and energy came inside the pit and 
        sucked me up instantly. I felt myself floating up as I began to see 
        light. As I continued to look, I noticed it was the sunlight shining 
        through my bedroom window. I saw my body as it was laying 
        facedown on my bed, and the unseen force pushed me toward my 
        body. I saw what I looked like from behind for the first time without 
        a mirror. I saw all the furniture in my room. 
         
        A week prior to my Death-Outer-Body Encounter, a friend of mine in 
        school let me borrow a white ink pen, and I had been looking for that 
        pen for exactly a week. I was not able to find it. As I was coming 
        back to my body, seeing the sunlight shining through the window, I 
        began to see all around my bedroom with incredible vision. It seemed 
        as if though I had panoramic sight. I remember looking down at the 
        floor where I saw my schoolbooks. Then, with this enhanced vision I 
        was able to see completely under my bed. I was very amazed at what 
        I discovered. Seeing with my spirit eyes, there lay my friend’s white 
        ink pen that I had been looking for. Instantly, the unseen force began 
        to pull at my spirit, and I was back in my body. I jumped up off the 
        bed, and to prove I was not having some terrible nightmare, I got on 
        the floor and looked under my bed. Sure enough, there was the white 
        ink pen. While there on the floor, I began praising and thanking God 
        for not leaving my soul in Hell. 
         
        I did not tell anyone about my Death-Outer-Body Encounter. Many 
        weeks had passed, and I began to meditate on my ‘Hellish’ 
        experience, which led me to question God about my trip to Hell. I 
        had just been saved in June of 1979! So since I was a Christian, I did 
        not expect God to send me to Hell. I prayed to God and I asked him,“Why me? Why did you wait so long to send me to Hell?” 
 
        I did not expect God to answer my prayer so quickly. To my surprise, 
        He answered me immediately in what seemed to be an audible voice. 
        He said, “Roger! I did not send you to Hell because you were a 
        sinner. The reason why I sent you to Hell was on the behalf of 
        sinners. I wanted you to be a witness on my behalf. Therefore, I 
        allowed your human spirit and soul to be taken out of your body for 
        two minutes and placed inside a pit in Hell, so that you would know 
        for yourself that Hell really does exist. I want you to tell people of 
        every race that you have seen Hell, and warn them to repent from 
        their sins. Tell them that Hell is a horrible place of torments. Tell 
        them to give their lives to me before it is too late. I have chosen you 
        to be my witness to warn many people about the horrors of Hell.” 
         
        After hearing God’s voice, I was frightened; I needed somebody to 
        talk to, so I turned to my brother Tony, and I explained to him how I 
        had just heard God’s voice and that He was talking to me. I told my 
        brother that God said to me that He had chosen me to be a witness on his behalf. As I told this to my brother, he immediately believed me 
        and became frightened as well. 
         
        What is a witness? A witness is a person who has gathered facts or 
        gained firsthand information concerning a subject or a certain 
        situation, and that is exactly what I experienced. I’ve seen with my 
        own eyes, this place called Hell, and I learned why certain people go 
        to Hell for all types of reasons one may not expect or have heard of. 
        Although you will hear me explain this and much more about my 
        second journey to Hell in 1998. 
         
        CHAPTER ONE: 
        ENTRANCE INTO HELL 
         
        In October 5, 1998, I remember glancing at the clock in my one 
        bedroom apartment in the city of Roseville, a suburb of Detroit, 
        Michigan. The time was 9:45 A.M. As I was lying in bed, 
        meditating on the angelic presence of God, and under the inspiration 
        of the Holy Spirit, I felt the manifested presence of God. As I said 
        before, I am not a stranger to the presence of God because my human 
        soul and spirit have left my body on three different occasions, and at 
        each time, I immediately was able to discern the divine presence of 
        God. 
         
        God said out of his own mouth - 
         
        “The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep hear his 
        voice and come to him. He calls his own sheep by name and leads 
        them out.” –  John 10:3 NLT 
         
        “And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, 
and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.” 
        John 10:4 KJV 
         
        “And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they 
know not the voice of strangers.” - John 10:5 KJV 
 
        This is what God had said to me, referring to every person that puts 
        their trust in Him: he or she will be able to recognize His divine, holy 
        presence, and will be able to hear His voice any way He chooses to 
        speak to them. As I stated earlier, on certain occasions I have heard 
        the voice of Almighty God when He had spoken to me in times past. 
        It was that same voice I heard when I had my first Death-Outer-Body Encounter in 1980. On that cold October day of 1998, when God 
        appeared to me in my bedroom, He spoke in plain English. I could 
        only hear Him, but was not able to see him during the time He was 
        talking to me. God spoke to me, and He said, “I have come to talk to 
        you about Hell.” 
         
        Entrance Into Hell 
         
        Then He said to me, “I want you to begin talking to others about 
        Hell.” I said, “God, I have been talking, preaching and teaching on 
        the subject of Hell for almost 20 years!” Then God said to me, “I 
        know, but this time I am going to give you something to talk about!” 
         
        God continued to say, “I will manifest myself to you. I will let you 
        see me in greater depths, as you first saw me in 1988. I will allow 
        you to see me just as Peter, James and John did, hours before my 
        crucifixion and just moments after my resurrection.” Then God said 
        to me, “I want to show you a different part of Hell which is Outer 
        Darkness. I’ve come to talk to you about the Outer Darkness of Hell, 
        and I want you to talk to others about the Outer Darkness of Hell. 
        The Outer Darkness of Hell is located in the Second Heaven, which 
        is the exit from where I have prepared a place for you and all of those 
        who put their trust in me. That place is the Third Heaven. I will let 
        you see a portion of the Third Heaven when your tour of the Outer 
        Darkness of Hell is complete. I will say to you once more, the Second 
        Heaven is where the Outer Darkness Hell is this present day and 
        hour. Only a few people alive on Earth have seen this side of Hell. 
        Many priests, pastors and preachers in general, who are alive on the 
        Earth…I want to show them as well, this particular part of Hell that I will soon allow you to see. I am going to take you inside the Outer 
        Darkness of Hell, and let you see the horrible torments and 
        punishments that await those who willfully reject me as their 
        Almighty God and Savior. There will be some people who will try to 
        oppose this account. Some will believe and some will not, but for 
        those that will not believe, tell them that I have said in my Holy 
        Word that for those who love me, I will manifest myself to them.” 
         
        “He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that 
        loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I 
        will love him, and will manifest myself to him.” 
        John 14:21 KJV 
         
        Then the Lord God said to me, “I want you to be a true eyewitness 
        about my real existence and the existence of the place called the 
        Outer Darkness of Hell and its horrible punishments. Tell people that 
        you’ve seen me and tell them that you have seen portions of Hell.” I 
        asked God, “Why have you chosen to take me to Hell, and not the 
        other preachers?” God answered, “Because you are available and 
        they are not. Not all, but most of my preachers that are serving me 
        here on Earth, are committing sin in their lives. They think that 
        nobody knows about it, but I know all things. A part of the reason 
        why I will allow you to go into the Outer Darkness of Hell is so that 
        you can see the horrible punishments and torments which await the 
        hypocritical and unrepentant preacher when he or she dies. You will 
        be able to warn those who preach and teach my Holy Gospel.” 
         
        I wanted to tell the Lord God that I didn’t want to go Hell. In 1980, 
        when I first traveled to Hell and came back to Earth, I made a vow to 
        myself that I would never go back to Hell under any circumstances; 
        my first encounter with Hell was a horrifying one! Before I could get 
        the words out of my mouth to tell God that I did not want to go, I felt 
        my human soul and spirit being pulled out of my body. At the snap of 
        a finger—it seemed just that quick—I was standing beside my bed in 
        spirit-form. I immediately examined my spirit-form, and then I 
        looked over at my body. I saw my body sitting up in bed, and then I 
        watched as my body fell backwards toward the bed! I watched as my 
        head hit the headboard. 
         
        Then suddenly in amazement and awe I saw a bright white light 
        which took on the shape of a man, walk through my bedroom wall. I 
        watched as the light appeared in front of me. The light dimmed, and a 
        human form in the shape of a man was apparent.  
         
        It was at that exact moment when I saw the Almighty God in my 
        bedroom. I was speechless! I was frightened and excited at the same 
        time, as I quickly examined God with adoration. I must say, I am not 
        able to give you a complete description of His makeup because words 
        cannot describe the beauty of Him, but I will do my very best to try. 
        Tears fill my eyes each time I tell people that I saw God. Then God 
        said, “Look at me. I am the Almighty God, the Savior of the world 
        and the One who created the Heavens and the Earth, things that are 
        seen and are not seen. All things were created by me.” 
         
        God continued to say, “I’ve come to let you see me just as the twelve 
        disciples did, hours before my crucifixion and days after my 
        resurrection. I want you to tell people you have seen me. For this 
        purpose were you born: to be an eyewitness of my true existence. I 
        am sending you as my prophet and messenger. I will give you a sign 
        that I have chosen you; the sign is that you will reach many people 
        outside your own race and nationality, and the gifts of my Holy Spirit 
        will operate through you. You will possess supernatural knowledge 
        about certain individuals. I will reveal to you certain facts and secret 
        things that are in the hearts of many people. This will be my sign to you and many others that I allowed you to see me, and gave you this 
        great insight about the Outer Darkness of Hell. I want you to tell the 
        people that I have allowed you to see me and that I am soon coming 
        to judge the world, and tell them that I love them very much. Also tell 
        them that I do want them to know what happens to a person after they 
        die.” I watched as the Almighty God turned his back toward me, and 
        then faced me again. Then He held out his hands and said, “Touch 
        me.” 
         
        Therefore, I did stretch forth my left hand and touched His right arm, 
        and to my surprise, He was solid and very much physical. As God 
        stood before me, He had a smile on his face. While looking into my 
        eyes, He spoke and said to me, “Roger, you are dead, but don’t 
        worry. Your brain, your heart and your blood will be preserved in 
        your physical body.” Having heard God say this, I glanced once 
        more at my lifeless body lying in the bed. The truth of the matter was 
        I did not feel dead! I felt very much alive and very much at peace. 
        Also during that moment, I felt more safe and secure than I have felt 
        in my entire life. Unexplainable joy consumed me; I felt an oneness 
        with God. 
         
        Then the Lord God said to me, “I have come to take you on a tour 
        through the Outer Darkness of Hell. The tour will last for three hours 
        and forty-five minutes. I will teach and show you about the true 
        existing horrors inside the Outer Darkness of Hell.” As I heard God 
        say that to me, just then…at that very moment, I remember feeling 
        the sensation of flying upwards into what appeared to be outer space. 
        I remember the sensation of floating out into the darkness of deep 
        space, first upward toward the sky, and then slowly descending into 
        black darkness until I was not able to see anything. Then God said to 
        me, “We have arrived at the Entrance of Hell.” I could not see 
        anywhere around me, but I was able to see the Lord because his body 
        was illuminating light. As I looked at Him, his body and his face had 
        a dazzling appearance. When I looked at Him and I saw his body 
        glowing with white light, immediately a certain verse of the Bible 
        came to mind where Jesus states that He is the light of the world. 
         
        “ …I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not 
walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”  John 8:12 KJV 
         
        The light that was shining from God’s body was just enough for me 
        to see the area in which we were standing. I was standing in Hell. My 
        surroundings reminded me of an underground coalmine. The ground 
        was made of black rock, the walls were the same, and the atmosphere 
        that I was in was very dark. I remember standing on what felt like a 
        rocky dirt road, but the rocks were cold. I remember God distinctly; I 
        recall how He looked at me and He said, “I brought you here to show 
        you a different side of Hell than what you are use to hearing certain 
        preachers talk about. I will show you a different area…much 
        different from what I allowed you to see in 1980.” Well, I 
        remembered what Hell looked like when I saw it in 1980. My friends, 
        if you have ever had a Death-Outer-Body Encounter and have seen 
        any portion of Hell, you know as well as I do that you will never be 
        able to forget that horrible place. 
         
        Then God said to me, “There will be times that I will speak to you in 
        the Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek languages.” God began to speak to 
        me in the Hebrew and Greek languages. He said to me, “There are 
        four words that I am going to use that are throughout the Bible to 
        describe Hell. The first is a Hebrew word, Sheol [sheh-ole’], which 
        is the world of the dead or the grave. This place is where the souls of 
        the ungodly and the godly men and women came when they died 
        centuries ago. The second is Greek—Hades [hah’-dace], which is 
        the place of departed souls and spirits, or where a sinner goes after 
        death. However, before my crucifixion and resurrection, Hades was 
        divided into two sections that were separated by a large impassable 
        gulf, which I created. The upper right side of Hades was called both 
        Abraham’s Bosom and Paradise. The Room of the Cursed is a portion 
        of what once was Abraham’s Bosom in Hades. I will allow you to see 
        the Room of the Cursed before your tour comes to an end in the 
        Outer Darkness of Hell. In the cursed Paradise of the Outer Darkness 
        of Hell, it was very pleasant. It had streams of water running through 
        it, and green trees. It looked much like a beautiful well-maintained 
        park. It contained the souls of all of those persons who had died and 
        put their trust in me as God during the Old Testament period, up until 
        the time of the death and resurrection of your Lord and Savior Jesus 
        Christ. All those human spirits that were in the Paradise of Hades 
        [Hell] were very much conscious. They were not soul-sleeping. They 
        were quite alive. After the crucifixion, I spent three days in Hades, 
        preaching to the spirits that were there.” 
         
        “By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in 
prison;” - 1 Peter 3:19 KJV 
 
God continued to say, “When all the believers who had died during 
        the Old Testament period saw me in the Paradise of Hades for three 
        days, such as Adam, Eve, King David, Moses, Abraham and 
        thousands of others, they rejoiced. At the end of the three days, I took 
        all of the Old Testament believers and all of those who believed up to 
        the death of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, out of Abraham’s 
        Bosom…the Old Paradise that was in Hades. I took them into the 
        New Paradise, which was in the Third Heaven, where they are 
        presently living at this very hour. To this day, the New Paradise is 
        also called Abraham’s Bosom. All of the people that lived during the 
        Old Testament period who would not put their trust in me as their 
        God, when they died, their human souls came here to Hades. They 
        were incarcerated on the lower left side of Hades, where there are 
        many torments and agonizing fires. This portion of Hades or Hell 
        also is called the “Fiery Pits of Hades.” There are many souls burning 
        in the fiery pits this very hour. 
         
        The third word to describe Hell is also a Greek word, which is 
        Tartaros [Tar-tar-os’]. Tartaros is this portion of Hell that I want 
        you to see specifically. This is the reason why I brought you here to 
        Hell: so you can be a witness to all back on Earth, testifying that 
        there is a place of severe punishments and judgment for those who 
        disobey my Holy Word, which is called the Holy Bible. This place is 
        called the Outer Darkness of Hell. Tartaros has many jail cells. I 
        spoke of Tartaros in my Holy Word. This portion of Hell contains the 
        angels who sexually sinned with the women of the Earth before 
        Noah’s flood. I only mentioned Tartaros one time throughout the 
        entire Bible: in the book of 2nd Peter, the second chapter, verse four.” 
         
        “For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down 
        to Hell [Tataros], and delivered them into chains of darkness, 
        to be reserved unto judgment;”         - 2 Peter 2:4 KJV 
         
        “These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a 
tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved forever.” 
        2 Peter 2:17 KJV 
         
        God continued to say to me, “I also asked my Apostle, Jude, to write 
        about the Outer Darkness of Tartaros in my Holy Book.” 
         
        “And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own 
        habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness 
        unto the judgment of the great day.” - Jude 1:6 KJV 
         
        NOTE: 
        For more on the angels which kept not their first estate, 
        see Genesis 6:1 through 6:5. 
         
        God said, “The fallen angels that I had Peter to write about are being 
        punished still at this present hour for having laid with womankind as 
        men would do. The fallen angels had sexual intercourse with the 
        daughters of men, which I found to be despicable. In just a short 
        while, I will take you to Tartaros in the Outer Darkness of Hell and 
        let you see the fallen angels who left their first estate, that are bound 
        in chains, awaiting the Great White Throne of Judgment Day, which 
        all the world will witness.” 
         
        Then God looked directly into my eyes, and said, “I have come to 
        show you the Zophos [Dzof’-os] and the Choshek [Kho-shek’] sides 
        of Hell.” He explained, “Zophos is Greek for the English words 
        darkness, blackness and gloomy-surrounding mist. Choshek is a 
        Hebrew word. It is also defined as darkness. As well, it means 
        misery, destruction, death, sorrow and wickedness. I tried to show 
        this side of Hell to many of my other servants, apostles, prophets, 
        evangelists, pastors and teachers, but the reason I am showing you is 
        because you are available.” 
         
        Then His words became very stern. “My son, what I am about to 
        show and teach you about Hell is a true report, so look, listen and 
        learn. In this side of Hell, it is very dark. I referred to it in my 
        gospel…in my Holy Book, which you call the Holy Bible. There are 
        many souls here in this place. My son, look, listen and learn. What I 
        am about to tell you, then soon show you, is the truth. Many souls are 
        here in Hell this very moment. You will soon hear thousands upon 
        thousands of people crying. Remember what I said in my gospel, in 
        the book of St. Matthew, the eighth chapter and verse twelve.” 
         
        God quoted - 
        “But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into Outer 
Darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” 
        Matthew 8:12 KJV 
         
        God continued to say, “The fourth word to describe Hell is Geenna 
        [Gehenna - Gheh’-en-nah] in the Greek language. I want you to 
        know that if anyone living on Earth today, completely rejects the 
        Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, when they die they will be brought 
        down to Hades and be burned in Gehenna, where the fire is not 
        quenched.” 
         
        “But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother 
        without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever 
        shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but 
        whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of Hell fire.”   Matthew 5:22 KJV 
         
        “And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: 
        for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, 
        and not that thy whole body should be cast into Hell.”  Matthew 5:29 KJV 
         
        “And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: 
        for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, 
        and not that thy whole body should be cast into Hell.”  Matthew 5:30 KJV 
        (Also, see  Mark 9:43-9:47.) 
         
        God continued to say, “Gehenna was a public garbage-dumping site 
        that burned twenty-four hours a day for the citizens of Jerusalem to 
        come and deposit their garbage. It was also where the bodies of dead 
        criminals were set on fire. The smell of this garbage pit was horrible, 
        polluting the atmosphere with an unbearable stench. The burning site 
        was located on the outside of the city walls of Jerusalem, in the valley 
        of Hinnom. I talked about Gehenna numerous times in my gospel. I 
        have given the Lake of Fire the name Gehenna, typifying that it burns 
        twenty-four hours a day. It will burn and torment the human souls 
        and spirits of the sinners who have willfully rejected me and my Holy 
        While Out of My Body I Saw God Hell and the Living Dead
        Word, which you call the Holy Bible. Gehenna is prepared for the 
        Devil, his angels and for any human being that has no desire to love 
        and obey me as their only God.”  
         
        “Then shall he say unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye 
        cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his 
        angels:”  Matthew 25:41 KJV 
         
        God cautioned me and He said, “You are going to see persons from 
        every race and from different backgrounds. You are going to see a lot 
        of human souls and evil demonic spirits. There will be times when 
        the demonic spirits and human souls will see you and me. There will 
        be times when the demonic spirits and human souls will not be able 
        to see us. There will be times when the demonic spirits and human 
        souls will only see you, but they will not see me, and there will be 
        times when the demonic spirits and human souls will see me, but they 
        won’t see you.” 
        I noticed his demeanor changed instantly. His facial expressions 
        portrayed the manifestation of sorrow. He looked at me and said,“My son, there will be times when you won’t be able to see me.” He 
continued to say, “Just because you cannot see me, that doesn’t mean 
        that I am not present with you. I do not want you to think that during 
        the times that you are not able to see me that I have forsaken you. I 
        want you to know that this will not be the case.” He paused, and then 
        He said to me, “Do you remember what I said in my Gospel, in the 
        book of John, the fourteenth chapter, verse 27?”  
         
        God quoted -“Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world 
        giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, 
        neither let it be afraid.” – John 14:27 KJV 
         
        God continued, “Look, listen and learn, for…
“…Lo I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world….” 
        Matthew 28:20 KJV 
         
        Then God said, “Follow me.” As we walked on that dark rocky road, 
        ahead of me I saw a dim light, and in this light, I saw thousands of 
        people standing in front of what seemed to be an entrance to a large 
        room. Although there was not much light, I could still see these 
        Entrance Into Hell 
        people. You see, I will never forget those people because I stopped 
        and stared at them. It is my nature; I am a person that just loves 
        people. I do not care who they are or what race they may be. I just 
        love people! I began to see all of these thousands and thousands of 
        people jam-packed together, standing in a long line on that rocky 
        road. It seemed as though they were all waiting to check into a hotel. 
         
        THE GATES OF HELL 
         
        While standing there, my eyes transfixed on all those people, I 
        noticed something else as I looked to my left, then to my right. I saw 
        the biggest and the tallest rusty, black, iron gates that I have ever 
        seen. These gates must have been at least fourteen or fifteen stories 
        high. It had the strangest designs on the front of the gates, which 
        reminded me of snakes. I said to myself, “This must be the ‘Gates of 
        Hell’ that I read about in the Bible!” 
        While standing there, gazing up at those gates, a few verses came to 
        mind from the book of  Matthew. 
         
        “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the 
        way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in 
        thereat:” -  Matthew 7:13 KJV 
         
        “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth 
unto life, and few there be that find it.” - Matthew 7:14 KJV 
 
“ …Upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hell 
shall not prevail against it.” - Matthew 16:18 KJV 
         
        My eyes began to wander over the crowd again with great 
        fascination. I walked toward the crowd of people until I was amongst 
        them. It was then I noticed that they were people of all races, from 
        every background imaginable. All of a sudden, I heard someone call 
        my name, and the voice said, “Roger, what are you doing here? 
        You’re not supposed to be here!” I looked to the left of me because 
        that is where I was hearing the voice. It was then I saw a tall, 
        Caucasian young man. He looked to have been about six feet in 
        height. His hair color was dark brown, and he had a slight mustache. 
        He was tall and skinny, with a long neck. He was staring at me, and 
        said to me again, “Roger, what are you doing here? You’re not 
        supposed to be here!” While looking at him, I asked him, “How did 
        you know my name?” He said to me, “I saw you coming here from 
        While Out of My Body I Saw God Hell and the Living Dead
        the plain.” (He was referring to planet Earth.) He said again, “You’re 
        not supposed to be here!” 
         
         
        Once more, I asked him, “How did you know my name?” Once more 
        he stated, “Roger, please go back. You are not supposed to be here.” 
        I became angry and I demanded that he tell me how he knew my 
        name. He responded, “I’m Bobby! Don’t you remember me? I’m 
        Bobby!” I said to him, “I don’t know anyone by the name of Bobby!” 
        He said once more, “You don’t remember me? I was in your gradeschool 
        class, and I sat at your right-hand side in a class taught by a 
        teacher whose name was Mrs. Ritchie.” He began to rationalize with 
        me, but to no avail. In my perplexity, I turned to God for answers. I 
        searched for Him and then I realized that He was nowhere that I 
        could see. I began to walk through those gates, past numerous people. 
        I had become afraid because I did not see God. Walking down this 
        road, the atmosphere seemed to turn darker and darker. 
        I began to cry. I stopped walking and covered my eyes with my 
        hands. I had become emotionally overwhelmed. Then the Almighty 
        God spoke to me and said, “My peace is with you.” Quickly I 
        removed my hands from my eyes, and there was God standing in 
        front of me. I said, “God, where did you go? Why did you leave 
        me?” He answered, “Fear not! I promised you I would never leave 
        you. I also told you that there would be times that you will not see 
        me. I may be out of your vision, but I am never out of your 
        presence.” 
        I cannot explain it, but after hearing God say those words to me, I 
        was very comforted. I felt as if though I was being wrapped in a 
        warm blanket. I noticed when I looked at Him, that He was 
        beautifully handsome. I will describe what God looks like to the best 
        of my ability a little later on in this book. When He looks at you, you 
        can see and feel love flowing from His eyes. He said to me, “Come, 
        let’s go; there are many things that I want to show you. I will show 
        you the dark side of Hell.”  
         
        As God and I began to walk, I could hear strange noises all around 
        us. The noises sounded like chains rattling, scratching on the wall, 
        animals howling, people crying…and it sounded like something or 
        someone was running in front of us, but I could not see anything. 
        While I walked with God, I held onto His left arm. During the time 
        God and I were walking, I stayed very close to Him. 
         
        THE ENTRANCE OF HADES 
         
        I noticed we were walking on what seemed to be a rocky black road. 
        Although I could see very little—only what was visible by the light 
        that came from God’s body—I could make out certain things. The 
        road that God and I walked on—its path was very crooked. I noticed 
        also, after walking for some time, that the smell in the air was 
        horrible. It smelled like rotted animal flesh. The whole time we were 
        walking on that rocky road, God never said one word to me…until I 
        had this thought: “This does not look like the Hell that I am used to 
        hearing preachers talk about on Earth. The Hell that I usually hear 
        about is fire and brimstone.” 
         
        I was amazed to discover that God knew what I was thinking. We 
        stopped walking, and He looked at me and said, “Would you like to 
        see the fire?” Before I could give an answer, He took his right hand 
        and waved it in the air, and then He pointed his index finger in a 
        direction that was of complete darkness. I noticed as He held out His 
        arm that He had on a white garment with sleeves all the way to His 
        wrists. The hem on the sleeve of His garment was trimmed in pure 
        gold. As He raised His right arm, the sleeve fell down to His elbow. I 
        was amazed to see a hole in the wrist of God’s hand! I thought to 
        myself, “Why in the world would God have a hole in His wrist?” The 
        hole was about the size of a nickel! It reminded me of Jesus’ 
        crucifixion, except Jesus had holes in the palms of his hands as a 
        result of him being nailed to the cross. 
         
        As I was reflecting on that, at the wave of His right hand, the entire 
        area where we were standing instantly illuminated with bright light, 
        and it seemed, as I was looking many miles ahead of us, that I began 
        to see tiny lights flickering at a distance. They looked like little 
        cigarette lighters…like tiny flames. For those of you that may have 
        been to a rock or rap concert, or have been able to see one on 
        television, you may have an idea of what I saw. Many times at those 
        concerts, in order to get the audience’s participation, they hand out 
        little candles and let the people hold them up in the dark as they move 
        their hands, swaying back and forth to the music. That is what it 
        looked like. The whole place was lit up with flames! Then God said 
        to me, “Follow me.” God and I began to walk toward those little 
        flames of light. The closer we got to the flames, the taller they 
        became, and the brighter they appeared. The flames were about six feet tall, and were a yellowish-orange color. 
         
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